Women in the military (kvinner i det militære)

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(see English version below)
 
Jeg leste nylig en artikkel om kvinner i det amerikanske forsvaret, om mange som blir seksuelt misbrukt av deres kolleger eller overordnede. Ofte er det slik at den personen som de skulle ha rapportert slike overgrep til, er den samme personen som har forgrepet seg på de, og som de ofte må samarbeide med i lang tid.  Dette er verdt en artikkel i seg selv. Den skal jeg ikke skrive nå. Denne gangen ble jeg sittende å tenke på at i disse tider fører Senterpartiet en kamp for at førstegangstjeneste skal bli obligatorisk for begge kjønn. Talsmenn for forsvaret sier dog at de dimmiterer mange menn fordi de ikke trenger så mange i dagens forsvar. Kvinner som vil har mulighet til å verve seg, og forsvaret vil ikke trenge alle unge kvinner. 

 
Nå lurer dere kanskje på hva disse sakene har til felles. Har SP gjort noen undersøkelser blant kvinner i førstegangstjeneste eller hos befal? Vet de om situasjonen til norske kvinner i militæret kan sammenlignes med de amerikanske, og dersom de kan, hvordan vil det slå ut dersom det blir obligatorisk for kvinner i det militære? 
 
Det er vel som å banne i kirken når jeg også sier at det tross alt er en biologisk forskjell på kvinner og menn. Menn har tross alt hormoner som både gir de mer styrke og mer vilje til å sloss. Interesser er dog forskjellig og avhengig av person, og jeg synes det er flott at også kvinner velger slike yrker. Men jeg tror at det er en misforstått likestillingsdebatt når vi på død og liv skal bli helt like. Jeg er svært takknemlig overfor de kvinner som har stått i bresjen for å skaffe neste generasjon de rettigheter vi har. Jeg tror allikevel at vi skal være forsiktige med å forsøke å utradere forskjellene mellom kvinner og menn, og heller tenke at vi har ulike styrker og på den måten kan utfylle hverandre. 
 
Bli med på diskusjonen!

 
I recently read an article about women i the military in the USA, and that a substantial amount of these women has experienced sexual abuse from their fellow soldiers or officers. Often, the very person they should have reported the abuse to, is the one who committed it, and they often have to collaborate with that person for a long time. This is definitely worth an article in itself, but this is something better left for another time. This time I was thinking about the fact that Senterpartiet (Norwegian political party, short SP) is campaigning for obligatory military service, for both men and women (up until now it has been only for men). Spokespersons for the military say that they do not need all the young men whose age requires them to enlist, and they will certainly not need all the women. The women who prefer to have a military career are welcome to enlist, however. 
 
Now you probably wonder what these cases have in common. I wonder if SP has conducted surveys among women in the military. Do they know if the situation of Norwegian women can be compared to that of the Americans? And, if it can be, how will the situation be for women if the service were obligatory?
 
Stating that there is a biological difference between men and women would probably not be well received. Men have hormones that give them both more strength, and the will to fight. The level of interest in a professioncan vary, though, and I think it is great that some women chose these professions. But the debate on equality is for me misunderstood when equality means being alike. I am immensely grateful towards the women from earlier generations whom have worked for the opportunities that we now have. Still, I believe that we ought to be careful to not wipe out the differences between men and women. We have different strengths, and can thus complement each other. 
 
Please, join the discussion.

 

 

 

 

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2 comments

  1. All my Norwegian male cousins and their sons had to do military service, but they weren’t all expected to be hardened military types.

    The son of my eldest cousin served most of his time working as little as possible in an Oslo office. He could return home many days, and said he was almost spoiled by the civilian women working there with cakes being brought in for him many days. Having women conscripts might have made his life even more comfortable.

    I’m in two minds about any sort of conscrption for either of the sexes. In some ways I think it broadens young people’s minds, as it brings them in contact with people they wouldn’t necessarily meet at university or in the workplace.

    The problems in the US seem to stem from the male chauvinist idea that being in the military is basically a male pusuit, therefore women soldiers should be like men. More women in uniform could help change that. It might be much better if more male soldiers thought they should behave more like women.

    The military definitely helps many men channel some of the aggressive energy younger males have in too much abundance.

    There is little doubt a professional army, without any form of conscription, funnels the same type of men together, which isn’t necessariy a good thing, Men who joiin an army voluntarilty, do so in the knowledge they may have to perform extreme acts of violence, Men against violence do not join the army. Conscripted males from all walks of life can dilute the macho factor considerably while adding creativity as well as intelligence..

    On the other hand, we should really be looking for ways to solve the world’s problems without resorting to violence. I abhor all acts of violence, and feel dismay to see the West embark on more and more uneccesary and expensive wars. How can politicians expect parents and schools to teach non-violent solutions to problems when they resort to violence so readily themselves?

    A rather long comment, but it’s not a simple discussion. I hope others join in.

    • Thanks for reading my blog and to post such a throught-through comment. It is a difficult dicsussion, indeed. I like your point of view that more women might in fact soften the environment and attitude in the military, perhaps you are right. Or, perhaps the obligatory nature of such a lawchange, will make some men (the ones you mention with a somewhat violent nature) think they are allowed to treat women how they please.

      I want to mention, though, that I know quite a few men who are professionals in the military, good men, who do a great service for our country. Men who are caring, respectful and take the work environment seriously. That being said, is it necessary to expect all people (men and women) to be part of it?

      I, like you, hope more people will join the discussion!

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